AND DNA

  • Apr 26, 2020
aubspeeps
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Oops submitting late, I just realized that the deadline was 9 pm EST not pacific whoops

not gonna lie, the palindromic melody parameter tripped my brain out a little bit; I’m not sure I technically achieved it but I had fun trying

lyrics

again

up then down then up

again again

up then down then up

again again

medication

good friend

my friend

good medication

fast then slow

relax relax

go go go

slow then fast

will it last, last it will

fast then slow

go go go

relax relax

slow then fast

round and round

lost then found

up then down

again again

down then up

found then lost

round and round

nurturing and dna

dna and nurturing

round and round

lost then found

up then down

again again

down then up

found then lost

round and round

fast then slow

relax relax

go go go

slow then fast

will it last, last it will

fast then slow

go go go

relax relax

slow then fast

medication

good friend

my friend

good medication

again again

up then down then up

again again

up then down then up

again


Looking for feedback on

Open to any feedback, i am very new to understanding how to use logic myself

Discussion

  • 25 Comments
nurphgun April 30, 2020 10:21pm

Aubrey, this is song is soo impressive. It’s so patient. I can’t really imagine having the focus to make something like this, lol, and the payoff is soo worth it. It’s a fever dream.

aubspeeps April 30, 2020 10:46pm

thank you!!! 💜💜💜trying to practice more patience these days! difficult but worth it for my brain

nick April 28, 2020 2:15pm

agree with so many points in these comments. so exhausting to figure out palandromic melodies, but i love how you used the prompt to inspire these lyrics, and the shapes they produced.

aubspeeps April 28, 2020 4:50pm

thank you dude much appreciated!

agasthya April 28, 2020 2:13pm

+1 for the vocal processing interacting with your natural vibrato – “fast” at :51 is beautiful. I’m a sucker for well executed pitched-down vocals, and you nailed it at 3:15. would love to hear how adding even more reverb to the vocals could elevate them and make them even spacey-er!

aubspeeps April 28, 2020 2:26pm

thanks man! thats a great piece of advice ill definitely explore more vocal reverb for the future

aubspeeps April 28, 2020 2:26pm

thanks man! thats a great piece of advice ill definitely explore more vocal reverb for the future

aubspeeps April 28, 2020 2:27pm

thanks so much!! thats a great piece of advice ill definitely explore adding more vocal reverb for future assignments 🙂

aubspeeps April 28, 2020 2:28pm

no idea why these comments posted so many times lol 😝

Tengo April 27, 2020 11:47am

I love the vocal processing! The way your natural vibrato interacts with the tremolo effect (I think?) is really satisfying. I also really like the long pause at the middle. Never thought of a silence marking the midpoint of the palindrome!

aubspeeps April 27, 2020 12:35pm

thank you so much! The main vocal processing technique I’m using is putting a rotor cabinet affect on the vocal and guitar tracks; I’m new to fucking around with this stuff but I have always loved the weird dreamlike space it puts you in especially when listening with headphones and you have the sounds cycling around from ear to ear, I thought that would be a musical metaphor for the lyrics

ryan.mp3 April 27, 2020 11:35am

I am deeply impressed with your patience, especially with these fragmentary lyrics—they mean so much more with the repetition and space. Glad this isn’t a short piece. Agreed with others that your voice is a great anchor here, and it really does allow for all the weirdness swirling around it. Regarding your question about logic—reading about automating effects could be fun and very related to this particular recording. I find Logic’s automation drawing tool pretty intuitive, and taking control of when and how all of your effects come to the forefront or recede to the background would be a great sculpting tool for a piece like this—would allow the effects to not always be tied to the dynamics of the performance. And it would be relatively feasible in this case, since the effects are only on two instruments. Anyways—that’s just a thought! I’m learning about all this stuff, too. Great work. Would love to visit your home planet some time.

aubspeeps April 27, 2020 12:38pm

wow thank you Ryan! I really appreciate this. I will definitely check out that automation stuff that sounds like exactly the direction I need

Ben April 27, 2020 9:57am

So far, i’d say you have the most cohesive 1-2 punch of songs in ncbc. Both are so… spacious and airy, unsettling but pretty. I could definitely see you playing this song on stage at a weird bar in the background in a scene in a David Lynch movie. Also the long lyric list somehow really adds to the experience. Especially when you scroll quickly and the alignment of the words moves around in waves – it’s a great palindrome structure.

For me, I’ve always noticed music falling into 2 categories:
1. person with instruments playing and singing in real life in a room somewhere and being a tangible real human (example: the rolling stones, pearl jam, pinegrove, louis armstrong, NWA, the grateful dead)
2. a different plane, maybe created by aliens or gnomes or time-travelers. Not necessarily just “trippy and weird” but not quite of this earth – sort of inside-the-radiator-in-Erasorhead or the jazz at the Black Lodge in Twin Peaks. Not sure why i keep getting Lynchy here. Vibes and atmosphere and characters and story and sounds.
(it’s kind of the Beatles to the Rolling Stones; Nirvana to Pearl Jam; Radiohead to Pinegrove [not 1:1 comparison, I know]; Kamasi Washington to Louis Armstrong; Kendrick Lamar to NWA; Pink Floyd to the Dead)

I seem to gravitate toward type “2”, but there are *lots* of exceptions. I think the two songs you shared so far are firmly in that “2” category for me and i dig them. Even though you *are* a person with an instrument in a room singing about stuff, you’ve created a vibe: it’s an escape and an experience. thank you for reading my dissertation.

aubspeeps April 27, 2020 12:44pm

Ben!!! I don’t even know how to express my gratitude at this well-thought out commentary, I really appreciate that you took the time to write out these thoughts and I am stoked that you have put me in category number 2. These days I’m trying to embrace my weird and not try to force my way into a particular structure so reading your words means more than you know. I was very self-conscious about this before posting it but to hear support like this is healing and confidence-boosting – and I’m stoked that this gave you lynch vibes

Sam Pearce April 28, 2020 10:29am

Read and enjoyed your dissertation too, Ben.

Sam Pearce April 27, 2020 1:16am

Wow, this is special. I agree with Zack – really nice voice, and it takes confidence to put this kind of processing on beautiful singing, and I think the beauty still comes through, with the added bitterness of the chorus(?) effect. Do you listen to Arca? If not, this song made me think of some of her work. In particular, I find the song “Coraje” to be devastating.

aubspeeps April 27, 2020 12:45pm

Thank you so much!! I haven’t but I will definitely be checking her out, thank you for the recommendation!! love your song by the way ive been thinking about it since I listened to it the first time

Sam PearceApril 28, 2020 10:37am

Thank you! That’s really nice to hear:)

aubspeeps April 27, 2020 1:28pm

I am back here to say I have listened to your recommendation and am super into Coraje and will definitely be exploring more of this artist. stellar recommendation thank you

Sam PearceApril 28, 2020 10:36am

Awesome! Sure thing. I only really know that one album, and it’s challenging music for me, but definitely rewarding when I take the time to listen. I’m gonna listen to some of her other stuff today.

Z April 26, 2020 10:38pm

Re: logic, might I suggest Plato.

Seriously I can’t help with that it’s been years BUT I should have me ole Logic up and running by next submissions so I can probably be more useful then.

Anyway we don’t know each other too well but this hit me pretty hard personally, particularly the length and repetitiveness of the lyric sheet and the weirdness.

It wouldn’t be sustainable if you didn’t have a nice voice, (really great vibrato m’dude!!). I think that’s what lets you get away with how unsettling the chorus effect is – I’d feel queazy without. I think that’s (one of) the things that makes the Mars Volta unlistenable, Cedric just doesn’t have a soothing voice. But I’m still a big Omar Rodriguez fan so the guitar in this felt pretty at home for me.

An ad for this journey would be something like: Spirit Plays Extra-Dimensional Lute At Bottom of Ocean – The Result Will Blow Your Mind

I would recommend this to someone who hasn’t yet been on this journey.

aubspeeps April 26, 2020 11:22pm

Thank you for the kind words! I’m really glad to hear that it resonated thematically in the sense of the message being understood. I definitely was curious how listenable this would actually be because I am very limited in my software experience and I don’t happen to have a midi controller or keys etc with me right now, just a travel mic and my guitar which I am also limited on. These challenges are definitely a growing experience for me

Z April 29, 2020 10:23am

Edit: Nick called me out for throwing one of our all time favorite bands under the bus, I ought to make some clarifications in good conscience.

I’ve noticed the vocals in the Mars Volta are particularly unlistenable to many. Though I’m a huge fan, I get it, I certainly struggled with that aspect with their last three albums.

The guitar sound in your submission reminded me so much of ORL, one of my all time favorite guitarists and producers.

It saddened me when TMV broke up, but it maddened me when the band’s left brain, Cedric, wrote a searing and childish indictment of his bandmates in public letters. I associate the unceremonious end of TMV, mostly, with Cedric’s behavior. “And DNA” probably hit me all the harder because it reminded me of ORL’s guitar playing but without Cedric. I think the fact of this complicated emotional experience for me is underscored by how much value I placed on the “soothing” quality of your vocal performance.

Obviously this is not artistic feedback, just a personal exploration that I figured I’d leave here.

aubspeepsApril 29, 2020 2:38pm

Oh interesting! I have to admit, I wasn’t aware of TMV until your initial comment, upon which I looked them up; I will also admit I have not been able to stop listening to them since! Rad stuff. I think I have also tricked you into thinking I am a way better guitarist than I am, but I am thrilled my song gave you moments that reminded you of ORL, wow is he incredible. As for the politics and dynamics of the band itself, I am not aware of anything about them (fan of 3 days) but I am not a fan of public humiliation so I can completely understand why you feel that way. Thank you for being open about your emotional experience with TMV and my song, I really appreciate it and will be mulling all of this over. music music music music